front mount pumpers and tankers

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District Chief
I have always felt wher a fd does alot of draft ing the frouny mount pump would make more sense .In ther Philly thread theree shoiuldbe somefront mount puimps that the pfd had in the mid 50's and saw a lot of service drafting from our two rivers Many times they could get into a position where bigger rigs could not .sw
 

MATT3045

Lieutenant
MFDPhoto1 said:
Posted by: MATT3045

Is that Richfield, Summit County near Akron? That is the department I used to be on and have family still on. I do not recognize that truck at all. It is not even the right paint scheme.
It may have been from Richfield, Hawaii for all I know. I was passing through the area (Summit County)...saw the thing sitting there behind a raggedy ole building, stopped, snapped a pic, and assumed it was from there...that's it! Guess the next thing I should do is delete it.......:-\
Let me check with my grandfather, I have already e-mailed him about it. He hopefully should know.
Well my grandfather just told me it looked like it shortly after they got rid of it. The picture they have of it was when it was still all red. It was painted to the white & red in the early 70's he said (he thinks)
 

Twig

Firefighter
That 1972 Diamond Reo is a BEAUTIFUL rig!

Looks like what fire apparatus is SUPPOSED to
look like!

They all look like generic boxes now. You have
to walk right up to them and look at the name
plates to tell the difference today! Loved it
when apparatus was distinguishable by their
bodywork and pump placement!

Thanks for preserving a piece of FD history!
It is DEFINITELY unique!
 

lfpd75

Probie
The point is trucks like the Diamond Reo's,Brockway,Hme Vt100's,autocars,and Mack B's and so forth is they all had class where today almost every department runs all or mostly E-one or Pierce or Seagrave or some other custom chassis.
 

station32

Probie
Even more than just the apperance the trucks had sound, The diamond in particular is powered by a 6v71 detroit with a 5+2 manual transmission and a set of chrome exhaust stacks. You can hear the truck coming long before you see it. I think the biggest difference in the trucks of yesterday and the "custom" cookie cutter trucks today is you used to have to be smarter than the machine to operate it. today any idiot can climb behind the wheel and drive off with several peoples lives in there hands.
 

Engine33Truck

Assistant Chief
station32 said:
Even more than just the apperance the trucks had sound, The diamond in particular is powered by a 6v71 detroit with a 5+2 manual transmission and a set of chrome exhaust stacks. You can hear the truck coming long before you see it. I think the biggest difference in the trucks of yesterday and the "custom" cookie cutter trucks today is you used to have to be smarter than the machine to operate it. today any idiot can climb behind the wheel and drive off with several peoples lives in there hands.
Well said, which is why the Chief or Captain or whoever needs to use good judgment when signing off prospective engineers, make sure they actually know what they're doing before allowing them to drive on calls. And I love the sound of the old Detroit 6v71's....ok, well, any pre-1990 Detroit Diesel has a sweeter sound to it than any other
 

boardmansteve

District Chief
code4north said:
Here's a couple of photos I have in my collection - The 1st one is still in service, the 2nd one is most likely retired...
Please post complete stats with your photos...year, body builder, pump/tank sizes, and so forth.
 

cfb

Lieutenant
ENG351 said:
Logan Trivoli Fire Prot Dist, Hanna City, IL
4-33
1973 Chevrolet C-65 Alexis Fire Appt
Barton America 750GPM / 750 tank
(4-38 tanker background)
with a front mount pump i figure it would had a bigger tank on it then 750.
 

cpyahoo

Firefighter
Ex-East Roane Co. VFD, TN/Ex-Hudson FPD, IL.
1978 Chevy C-65/Alexis
Barton-American 750 gpm/1000 gallons

Ex East Roane Co. VFD, TN/Ex-Nokomis FD, WI.
1979 Ford F-800/3-D Manufacturing
Barton-American 750 gpm/1250 gallons
 

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cpyahoo

Firefighter
Ex-East Roane Co. VFD, TN/Ex-Hudson FPD, IL.
1978 Chevy C-65/Alexis
Barton-American 750 gpm/1000 gallons

Ex East Roane Co. VFD, TN/Ex-Nokomis FD, WI.
1979 Ford F-800/3-D Manufacturing
Barton-American 750 gpm/1250 gallons
These were my two favorite trucks with ERCVFD! They were ideally designed for what they were doing... rural firefighting. Both trucks were bought off of eBay. The '78 Chevy/Alexis we bought directly from Hudson, IL. The 1979 Ford/3-D, we bought through the Rawhide Boys Ranch in New London, WI. They were also a hit at the local parades.
One fond memory I have of the '78 Chevy/Alexis was a house fire down in Dogwood Valley. Multiple calls on it, so we knew we had a job. My buddy Caleb (who was, maybe, 18 at the time) and I responded in the '78 Chevy/Alexis.
When we pulled up, we had fire blowing out the windows on the "A"/"D" corner. I looked and asked, "Hey... is that a swimming pool back there???" Sure enough... it was! I pulled between the houses and stopped long enough for Caleb to hop the tailboard to pull one of the rear pre-connects. I pulled back behind the house, kicked down the fence and nosed the ol' rig in towards the swimming pool. within 2 minutes, I had the hard suction connected, in the pool and pulling a draft. It was a room-and-content fire and we were making good work of it.
As the chief pulled up on scene, he could see the attack line, but not the truck. "801 to Engine #1... where are you?" I responded that we were behind the house. I saw the chief walk around back with a quizzical on his face. When he saw I was nosed in and drafting from a swimming pool, he went, "Ooooohhhhhh... OK!" 15,000 gallons on tap for firefighting!
By the time mutual aid showed up with tankers, we pretty much had the fire out. The only thing left to do was salvage and overhaul. From time-to-time, whenever I talk to Caleb, that story always comes up! We always laugh about how we used those folks' pool as a dump tank and how their swimming pool saved their house.

Another time, we were called to a motorcycle wreck on US-70, close to Gallaher Road. I responded in the '78 Chevy/Alexis. We got to the scene and found a motorcycle had hit a patch of gravel in the road and wiped out pretty hard. The driver was banged up and bloody. One of our medical first responders was tending to him. As he was being checked out and awaiting the arrival of the ambulance, he kept looking at the Chevy/Alexis real funny-like.
I looked over at his motorcycle an noticed it was the Harley-Davidson Firefighter edition. I asked him, "Hey... you on the job?" he responded that he was a fulltime firefighter out of Bloomington, Illinois. I pointed over to the Chevy and stated, "You should recognize that truck. It's old Hudson #101." He looked up at me and said "No s***??? I thought it looked familiar!"
 
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