Akron Fire

Seluryar

Firefighter
Matt, I was under the impression that the new Hazmat truck was operated by the Summit County Emergency Management Agency as it doesnt not display any Akron Fire Department Logos or numbering

Summit County Special Operations Haz-Mat Kenworth truck by Seluryar, on Flickr


Summit County Special Operations Haz-Mat Kenworth truck by Seluryar, on Flickr


Summit County Special Operations Haz-Mat by Seluryar, on Flickr


Summit County Special Operations Haz-Mat Kenworth truck by Seluryar, on Flickr

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MATT3045

Lieutenant
Seluryar said:
Matt, I was under the impression that the new Hazmat truck was operated by the Summit County Emergency Management Agency
It was purchased with grant money obtained with assistance of the EMA. All of our Special Operations Response Teams (SORT) fall under EMA, but each branch has its own managing body.
The truck is Stationed in Akron at Station 4 and is operated daily by on duty AFD members. The truck has no Akron numbering because it is technically a county vehicle, hence the number 3826. All HazMat vehicles start with 38 under the Summit County Numbering system. This truck and DECON 3846 are both county vehicles that are kept at AFD stations, but if needed they can respond county wide.
 

Seluryar

Firefighter
MATT3045 said:
Seluryar said:
Matt, I was under the impression that the new Hazmat truck was operated by the Summit County Emergency Management Agency
It was purchased with grant money obtained with assistance of the EMA. All of our Special Operations Response Teams (SORT) fall under EMA, but each branch has its own managing body.
The truck is Stationed in Akron at Station 4 and is operated daily by on duty AFD members. The truck has no Akron numbering because it is technically a county vehicle, hence the number 3826. All HazMat vehicles start with 38 under the Summit County Numbering system. This truck and DECON 3846 are both county vehicles that are kept at AFD stations, but if needed they can respond county wide.
then what was the fate of this truck?

Akron Fire Department Hazmat/Rescue-4 by Seluryar, on Flickr
 

MATT3045

Lieutenant
That truck is currently rescue 4, no hazmat equipment on it. R4 has most of the extrication equipment for the city. L4 does not have room for that stuff, the other ladders carry basic extrication. The new hazmat truck has no rescue equipment on it either. The old truck was very overloaded doing both roles.
 

Seluryar

Firefighter
MATT3045 said:
That truck is currently rescue 4, no hazmat equipment on it. R4 has most of the extrication equipment for the city. L4 does not have room for that stuff, the other ladders carry basic extrication. The new hazmat truck has no rescue equipment on it either. The old truck was very overloaded doing both roles.
ok, nice to know. final inquiry here, I am pretty sure I saw this truck at Akron City Hospital last year or the year before:

(image from
https://co.summitoh.net/index.php/departments/law/public-safety/emergency-management/236-hazardous-materials-response-team?showall=1 )

has that truck been part of AFD of is it from another agency? If it was retired, Where was it based out of?
 

MATT3045

Lieutenant
Seluryar said:
MATT3045 said:
That truck is currently rescue 4, no hazmat equipment on it. R4 has most of the extrication equipment for the city. L4 does not have room for that stuff, the other ladders carry basic extrication. The new hazmat truck has no rescue equipment on it either. The old truck was very overloaded doing both roles.
ok, nice to know. final inquiry here, I am pretty sure I saw this truck at Akron City Hospital last year or the year before:

(image from
https://co.summitoh.net/index.php/departments/law/public-safety/emergency-management/236-hazardous-materials-response-team?showall=1 )

has that truck been part of AFD of is it from another agency? If it was retired, Where was it based out of?
That is the main "County" truck, it is housed at Stow Station 2. We operate as a city unit and a county unit. The new AFD truck responds with AFD members inside the city on all their hazmat calls. The county truck responds county wide with the teams suburban members to calls out in the burbs. The DECON rig responds to both city and county calls, when they are dispatched properly. That is a whole other issue that will not be discussed in public. We also have a water spill trailer in Hudson that can respond county wide and in the city if needed. We all train together monthly, city and county members, and all of our drills involve both groups. We are also each other's back-up if needed. The city responds to a lot more fuel leaks and things like that with their hazmat rig. In the county we typically do not, unless it is big enough or involves a waterway.
Now after that mouthful of an explanation, back to why you saw that truck in Akron. Most likely one of three reasons. 1) it was there for a demonstration of some sort. 2) there was a drill or training. 3) ***the most likely*** the old HM/R4 was out of service and they had the county rig filling in.
Usually when the old AFD truck broke down, oops it mean went out of service, the county truck would be sent to the city to cover their hazmat and it would also respond city wide.
 

Seluryar

Firefighter
MATT3045 said:
That is the main "County" truck, it is housed at Stow Station 2. We operate as a city unit and a county unit. The new AFD truck responds with AFD members inside the city on all their hazmat calls. The county truck responds county wide with the teams suburban members to calls out in the burbs. The DECON rig responds to both city and county calls, when they are dispatched properly. That is a whole other issue that will not be discussed in public. We also have a water spill trailer in Hudson that can respond county wide and in the city if needed. We all train together monthly, city and county members, and all of our drills involve both groups. We are also each other's back-up if needed. The city responds to a lot more fuel leaks and things like that with their hazmat rig. In the county we typically do not, unless it is big enough or involves a waterway.
Now after that mouthful of an explanation, back to why you saw that truck in Akron. Most likely one of three reasons. 1) it was there for a demonstration of some sort. 2) there was a drill or training. 3) ***the most likely*** the old HM/R4 was out of service and they had the county rig filling in.
Usually when the old AFD truck broke down, oops it mean went out of service, the county truck would be sent to the city to cover their hazmat and it would also respond city wide.
When i was at City Hospital, County Sheriff Bomb Squad was there, but there was no activity around them, no emergency lights were on and there were no police cars with them, so it must have been training or a demonstration.
 

YARBFD10

LFD Engine Co. 3 - "The Beast of the East"
AFD T-10
Pierce Velocity
75' Quint
2000gpm / 400 gallon tank

Akron had gotten away from quints and just gone to straight ladder trucks, but staffing is way down for them and most of the city's ladder companies are cross manning paramedic units.

From Finley Fire
 

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MATT3045

Lieutenant
This truck will be just a quint, they are moving the current L10 to L8. Not sure where the engine is being relocated to. The station will now be strictly decombo'd. Per my buddy who is a lt at that station and was on the truck committee.
 

doomonyou

Firefighter
Hard to understand my hometown FD.
I'm guessing this is the FEMA money truck?
Disbanding engine and ladder for the quint. Will the truck carry extraction tools as well?

Always thought a quint would have been ideal for the valley(11) or the deep west end (12). These two stations are on the edge of town.

That Sutphen 13 is running has to be over 20 years old, maybe they'll get E10?

Still no "Q"! LoL
 

YARBFD10

LFD Engine Co. 3 - "The Beast of the East"
Per my AFD source, Station 10 will still be combo'd as Tower 10/Medic 10 with 3 personnel responding from there. Station 5 still runs a Tower/Medic combo with a early 90's Sutphen quint. Station 14 used to run the same compliment, but Tower 14 was condemned and scrapped 2 years ago and they have since been using a spare engine. Station 6 also used to have a Tower/Medic combo, but a few years ago they received a new Pierce engine.

Tower 10 was purchased via a grant. The current AFD chief wants to bring the "Towers" back. They call them "towers" because they are not to be climbed, just used as elevated waterways.
 

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MATT3045

Lieutenant
I will have to find out if things changed, but last time we discussed it, it was strictly going to be separate units due them not having an engine and ladder, but still having the water rescue units. It has to still act as a ladder for their ISO rating. That is why it won't be like tower 5. Again, I will call Scott tomorrow and find out.

Doom, problem with 11 or 12 having a ladder is the 12 has no room, and 11 is not close enough to anything to respond fast enough too. L9 is the busiest or second busiest in the city, it would not make sense to move it farther away.
 

doomonyou

Firefighter
They bought a ladder and aren't supposed to climb it? Weird thought there.
Why not just buy a tele squirt or one of the snozzles.....

Anyway, :) City really needs to buy some equipment!

I thought they were building a new #2 and #12. Read the papers a few years and they showed the app. floor held up with jacks at 12.

Just my "hometown buff" opinion. If they built a new station for 12, its obviously going to be bigger. And with 11 being new and big I could see a quint working in either and defiantly not doing away with a ladder.

We have 2 mid mount platforms set up as quints, though we use them as ladders. Also a straight ladder set up as a quint in reserve.
 

Box 2565

Engine 16 Box Responses
Staff member
Akron OH
191X Webb
Akron operated at least 4 Webb pumpers and 3 chemical and hose cars. Great photo of one of the A.F.D. engines!
 

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