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Title: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:07:35 PM
As some of you know, I have been photographing apparatus for over 30 years.  Back in the early days, my recordkeeping was lacking, but I have improved a bit as time went on.  When computers became popular, I started a database for the information I collect on the apparatus I photograph.  I recently began going back and filling in the blanks from the earlier years when I didn't record the info at the time I took the photo.  I have a batch of Ohio apparatus that have blanks to fill in.  In most cases, all I need is the year of manufacture.  On some, I may need the water tank capacity.  Any assistance that anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Engine 1, Felicty - Franklin FD, Felicity, OH
19?? Ford C/Pierce
1000/750
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:10:08 PM
Rescue 4, Northern Hills FD, Brentwood, OH
19?? Ford/Gerstenslager
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:11:57 PM
Rescue 1, Greenhills, OH
19?? Ford C/Swab
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:13:11 PM
Engine 110, Dayton, OH
19?? Mack C-95
1000/???
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:14:32 PM
Foam 11, Dayton, OH
19?? GMC/National Foam
1000/???/500F
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
Truck 15, Dayton, OH
19?? E-One Hurricane
1500/???/110'
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:17:02 PM
Engine 34, Washington FD, Washington Court Huse, OH
19?? Ford F-350/Allegheny
250/???/25F 4x4
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:18:29 PM
Ladder 38, Washington FD, Washington Court House, OH
19?? American LaFrance Century
1000/???/100'
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:19:42 PM
Engine 41, Washington FD, Washington Court House, OH
19?? Ford NT-850/Marion
750/1300
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 04, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
2S-41, Sharonville, OH
19?? Ford C/Swab
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: Box 2565 on November 04, 2013, 10:38:12 PM
As some of you know, I have been photographing apparatus for over 30 years.  Back in the early days, my recordkeeping was lacking, but I have improved a bit as time went on.  When computers became popular, I started a database for the information I collect on the apparatus I photograph.  I recently began going back and filling in the blanks from the earlier years when I didn't record the info at the time I took the photo.  I have a batch of Ohio apparatus that have blanks to fill in.  In most cases, all I need is the year of manufacture.  On some, I may need the water tank capacity.  Any assistance that anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Engine 1, Felicty - Franklin FD, Felicity, OH
19?? Ford C/Pierce
1000/750
Dave,

An interesting selection of apparatus.  I've photographed all of those that you posted (except maybe Dayton 110).  Here are the first few:
Felicity 1983 Pierce #E 1850
Northern Hills (what a great looking rig!) 1972 Gerstenslager #F 71 19
Greenhills 1962 Ford-1981 Swab Swab #4149 Model: MDR 15
Dayton E 110- Get ahold of Buckeye53 and see if he can say for certain which engine this was.  DFD had a '65, 2 '66 models, and a 1967 "C" model.
Dayton Foam 1987 500 water and 500 foam.  NF #1301.

More to come...
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:07:04 AM
Thank you, Steve!!!  I have several more.

Engine 11, Blue Ash, OH
19?? Mack CF
1500/600
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
Engine 302, Tiltonsville, OH
19?? Ford C/American Fire Apparatus
750/750
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:09:52 AM
Engine 1, Steubenville, OH
19?? KME Firefox
1500/750
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:10:55 AM
Rescue 1, Steubenville, OH
19?? Ford Super Duty/JBResQ
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:12:38 AM
Engine 242, Wintersville, OH
19?? Duplex/Pierce/19?? Pierce Arrow refurb
1250/500/50' Telesqurt
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:14:05 AM
Brush 241, Wintersville, OH
19?? Chevy K-20
400/250 4x4
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
Haz-Mat 249, Wintersville, OH
19?? Ford F-600/Betten
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
Engine 121, Belvedere FD, Bloomingdale, OH
19?? Ford F-800/Oren
750/750
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:17:57 AM
Engine 125, Belvedere FD, Bloomingdale, OH
19?? Spartan/Allegheny
1500/1000
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 05, 2013, 11:19:23 AM
Engine 2, Vigilant Hose Company #2, Martins Ferry, OH
19?? American LaFrance Century
1500/1000
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: brucobuff on November 05, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
2S-41, Sharonville, OH
19?? Ford C/Swab
1968   100/40
a Bill Friedrich photo of this appeared in my Enjine!Enjine! SWAB article in 2011.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: Box 2565 on November 06, 2013, 01:56:36 AM
Truck 15, Dayton, OH
19?? E-One Hurricane
1500/???/110'
O.K. Beginning with T-15:
Dayton T-15 1987 300 Tank #5784 1 of 2 purchased #5785 was assigned to T-13.
Washington E-34 1987 500 Tank
Washington L-38 1982 100 Tank #7539
Washington E-41 1965
Sharonville 1967 #2562 Model: SHR 17
Blue Ash 1980 #CF 686 F15 1400

The rest that you have posted are all from the Stuebenvile area and I've only photographed a handful of rigs up that way.  Bob Lloyd  (wf33ret) lives near there and may have the information you're after.

Steve
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:39:59 AM
Thanks, Warren and Steve!  I really appreciate the help.  Here are some more:

Engine 131, Unionport, OH
19?? Ford C/FMC-Bean
750/500
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:41:45 AM
Brush 133, Unionport, OH
19?? Chevy K-20
300/200 4x4
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:42:41 AM
Rescue 134, Unionport, OH
19?? Chevy G-30
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:44:13 AM
Engine 31, McKinley Heights, OH
19?? Ford C/Grumman
1000/750
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:45:23 AM
Engine 32, McKinley Heights, OH
19?? E-One Protector
1250/750
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:48:55 AM
Because I never looked at ID tags back then, I don't know if this is a Mack CF that was refurbed by Allegheny or an Allegheny on a Mack CF chassis.  I hope someone knows....

Engine 1, Vandalia, OH
19?? Mack CF/Allegheny
1250/500
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:50:36 AM
Engine 34, Fairview Park, OH
19?? American LaFrance 900 Series
1250/500
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:52:42 AM
Engine 1, Warrensville Heights, OH
19?? E-One Cyclone
1500/500
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:53:59 AM
Ladder 4, Warrensville Heights, OH
19?? American LaFrance Century
0/0/102' Water Chief
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:56:02 AM
Engine 5, Van Wert, OH
19?? Duplex/Howe-Grumman
1500/2000
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 06, 2013, 08:57:05 AM
Engine 15, Van Wert, OH
19?? American LaFrance 900 Series
1500/500
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: SixbyFire on November 06, 2013, 10:39:56 PM
Woot, woot! Finally some Cuyahoga County rigs I can help with!

Fairview Park Engine 34 - 1968 ALF
Warrensville Heights Engine 1 - 1989 E-One Cyclone
Warrensville Heights Ladder 4 - 1978 ALF

Source: Western Reserve Fire Buff Association Publications

Jeff
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:45:44 AM
Thanks, Jeff!  Here is the last batch:

Engine 1, Fort Jennings, OH
19?? Chevy C-70/United
750/1200
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:46:55 AM
Engine 2, Fort Jennings, OH
19?? Dodge/Howe
500/1000
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:48:05 AM
Tanker 3, Fort Jennings, OH
19?? International S-1700/M&W
250/2000
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
Engine 3, Tiffin, OH
19?? Grumman Panther II
1250/600
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
Ladder 1, Ashtabula, OH
19?? Grumman Panther I
1500/300/102' AerialCat
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:52:35 AM
Engine 212, Conneaut, OH
19?? Seagrave HB
1250/750
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:54:04 AM
Engine 232, Conneaut, OH
19?? Ford C/Thibault/Maxim
1000/750
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Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Engine 221, Conneaut, OH
19?? Ford C/Thibault/Maxim
1000/750
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 11:04:50 AM
Crash 21, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, OH
19?? Oshkosh Ti-3000 A/S-32P-23
1800/3000/530F/480PKP/50' Snozzle
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
Ladder 26, Sugarcreek Township FD, Bellbrook, OH
19?? GMC LT-9500/Sutphen
0/0/75'
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 11:10:40 AM
Last one.....

Engine 37, Collector owned in Texas, x-Sidney, OH
19?? Seagrave
1000/150
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: Box 2565 on November 07, 2013, 12:37:30 PM
Engine 2, Fort Jennings, OH
19?? Dodge/Howe
500/1000
1958 Howe #10350 Model: HRS-F
Vandalia - This was a Mack rehabbed by Allegheny.  For some reason I'm missing the year of the rehab.  It was a 1972 Mack #CF 685 F12 1393. (Another answer that Buckeye53 might know)
Ft. Jennings E-1 1981 United #147 Model: P 75 1200R
Conneaut E-2 is here! http://yngfire.com/index.php/topic,7960.msg40451.html#msg40451 Those Fords weren't in Conneaut either time I was there.
Sugarcreek Twp. is only a few miles from Moraine and I wonder if this is the Moraine tower with the pump removed?  http://yngfire.com/index.php/topic,7234.msg74585.html#msg74585  As I recall Cleveland had a couple of the cab-forward GMC towers.  One ended up in Kentucky and I don't know what happened with the other.  These are the only one I have information for.  You still need to get WF33RET to take a look!
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: Box 2565 on November 07, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Last one.....

Engine 37, Collector owned in Texas, x-Sidney, OH
19?? Seagrave
1000/150
One more....
1937 #86510
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 07, 2013, 04:03:25 PM
Thank you, Steve!  The former Moraine Sutphen is in Ashland, AL serving the Wellborn Cabinet Company Fire Brigade.  According to the book "Wheel Rolling", Cleveland had only one GMC tilt-cab tower, a 1968 on a single rear axle chassis. 

Hopefully, someone else (John, Bob, anyone?) will have the info on it or any of the rest I posted.  That's all of the Ohio rigs, but I have several from other States.  Look for more from me in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: Buckeye 53 on November 13, 2013, 12:12:14 AM
Engine 110, Dayton, OH
19?? Mack C-95
1000/???

When I shot it it was
Dayton, OH E-2
1967 Mack C95FD1626
1000/300

There is a Thread out there: Dayton, Ohio in the 1970's that shows this rig. 
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on November 13, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
Engine 110, Dayton, OH
19?? Mack C-95
1000/???


When I shot it it was
Dayton, OH E-2
1967 Mack C95FD1626
1000/300

There is a Thread out there: Dayton, Ohio in the 1970's that shows this rig. 


Thanks, Buckeye!  I have seen your photo in that thread, but was not sure it was the same rig.  The rear of the body is different.  Do you have info on any of the others I posted?
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: mackcffan2014 on September 28, 2014, 12:09:09 AM
Ladder 1, Ashtabula, OH
19?? Grumman Panther I
1500/300/102' AerialCat

The Ashtabula Fire Department website has this as a 1991. I'm hoping to see this in person someday as it sounds pretty impressive- 736 cubic inch engine, weighs 79,000 fully loaded.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on September 29, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Ladder 1, Ashtabula, OH
19?? Grumman Panther I
1500/300/102' AerialCat
Thank you!

The Ashtabula Fire Department website has this as a 1991. I'm hoping to see this in person someday as it sounds pretty impressive- 736 cubic inch engine, weighs 79,000 fully loaded.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: scottflynn101 on December 19, 2015, 02:31:04 PM
Engine 34, Washington FD, Washington Court Huse, OH
19?? Ford F-350/Allegheny
250/???/25F 4x4
This was a 1987 model. Just recently taken out of service.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: scottflynn101 on December 19, 2015, 02:33:16 PM
Rescue 4, Northern Hills FD, Brentwood, OH
19?? Ford/Gerstenslager
I believe this rig ended up working for the New Vienna FD in Clinton Co. Ohio. You may check with the now Clinton Highland Joint FD on any other info.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: scottflynn101 on December 19, 2015, 02:34:15 PM
Ladder 38, Washington FD, Washington Court House, OH
19?? American LaFrance Century
1000/???/100'
This was a 1980 model taken out of service a couple of years ago and scrapped.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: Box 2565 on December 22, 2015, 07:27:47 AM
Rescue 4, Northern Hills FD, Brentwood, OH
19?? Ford/Gerstenslager
1972 #F 71 19   
Greenhills OH 1962 Ford (originally a Howe pumper) 1981 Swab body #4149  Model: MDR 15
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on December 23, 2015, 11:39:30 AM
Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: 56 Central on July 22, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
Because I never looked at ID tags back then, I don't know if this is a Mack CF that was refurbed by Allegheny or an Allegheny on a Mack CF chassis.  I hope someone knows....



Not sure if you got the info you were looking for on this or not. Been a long time. Here's a shot I took when it was all Mack. I had it as a 73.
Title: Re: Unknown year - Ohio rigs
Post by: GA_Dave on August 27, 2017, 11:07:13 PM
Because I never looked at ID tags back then, I don't know if this is a Mack CF that was refurbed by Allegheny or an Allegheny on a Mack CF chassis.  I hope someone knows....



Not sure if you got the info you were looking for on this or not. Been a long time. Here's a shot I took when it was all Mack. I had it as a 73.

Thank you!