Author Topic: American LaFrance JOX Model (Read 11515 times)

yfdgricker · « **on:** April 02, 2002, 03:06:50 PM »

Here is a another JOX image...

American LaFrance JOX-4-100 series aerial ladders

From http://members.ozemail.com.au/~firemuse/mof204.html

Box 2565 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2002, 09:38:02 PM »

The first American LaFrance model JO was a 65' aerial delivered to Marietta, Ohio on December 6, 1938. The last rig of this style was an 85' model JOX aerial delivered to Rensselaer, New York on December, 19, 1946.

All 110 JO/JOX aerials produced had open semi-cabs with full doors and half glass. The initial deliveries of these rigs were designated series JO, which eveidently described the "J" power-plant ( American LaFrance model J V-12) and "O" for open cab. The "X" suffix apparently indicated that the apparatus had open ladder beds.

These were the first cab forward rigs built by ALF.

The information in this reply was obtained from Enjine!-Enjine! magazine issue 1981-4, the official publication of SPAAMFAA.

yfd4 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2002, 08:16:06 AM »

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steve bournias
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What is the subtle difference between these two designations?
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The "J" is the engine type, while the "O" means - Open Cab. The "X" originally stood for Experimental but eventually became the designation for the Cab-Forward design.
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emt805 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 12, 2004, 10:49:34 PM »

This is my 1944 ALF M-5-100 JO Deluxe Service Aerial this truck also has a tank and what I was told a booster tank? would anyone know about the tank size and pump capacity?, It was shipped to Pontiac, MI on 1-29-44, "J" V-12 (now a non running GMC V6), and yes it still has the original wooden ladders and pike poles (the first 4' or so on the ladders are in bad shape due to sitting outside for 2 years before I found the truck but the rest of them that where stored inside the truck are like new and are all stamped ALF). The truck was in service in Rochester MI but I am unsure when, I was told when I got the truck that it had been sitting for the last 18 years. Does anyone know if there are many of these rigs still around (or if any still operate?) or if there where that many produced? I find a lot of photos of the JOX but not many of the JO, any information / manuals / photos / or information on where to find parts, or what kind of siren, or light/siren combo this truck would have had would be appricated and helpful.
emt805@hotmail.com

firebill3 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2004, 12:54:03 PM »

These were affcxtionately known as the "ugly american" I dont't know exactly how many have been buoilt but there are still some around. Let me check my photos from this years SPAAMFAA muster at Frankenmuth, I think there was one there. The farthest away from the states that one still exists in in either Australia or new Zealand. As far as the booster tank, I am almost postive none of the JO models ever had a pump or tak on them. There was enough wiehgt onthe front axle withut any thing extra..and the steering was Armstrong...

emt805 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2004, 04:01:29 PM »

I have been told that the tank on this JO model holds 100 gallons with a 200 gpm booster pump. I don't recall seeing any at the SPAAMFAA muster at Frankenmuth, I did have photos of this rig on my other two trucks that I had at the muster maybe that is what you saw :?: thanks for the other info.

Joe

emt805 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2004, 04:38:55 PM »

Does any one know where I can find a manual for this rig? :?:

firebill3 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2004, 07:36:26 AM »

Hey Guys,
I have to apologize, after researchung this thing last night some more, JO-JOX model did have a unit sold to Sturgis Mi., I am sure thats what I read ad it had a booster tank and a 600 gpm pump. Have only found one built that way it was in 1941

Box 2565 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2004, 05:28:32 PM »

Hi,

I saw the JOX quint about 20 years ago in Columbus, Ohio. It was coming the other way in traffic (decorated for a St. Patrick's Day parade)and by the time we were turned around, it vanished, never to be seen again.....

The photo below shows a JOX equipped with a booster pump and tank. I don't recall which department originally purchased this apparatus.

Old Fort OH
1941 American LaFrance
75' Aerial
Serial #L 1470

Steve
:twisted:

aussiebuff · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2006, 05:20:34 AM »

Quote from: "firebill3 @ Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:54 am"

:. The farthest away from the states that one still exists in in either Australia or new Zealand. .

There are SIX JOXs still alive in Australia.

Seven came here in 1942 as part of the US miltary aid program of WW2.

None went to, or exist in, New Zealand unless it has been privately imported by a collector.

emt805 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2006, 12:32:51 PM »

Do you have any photos of the six rigs over there?

Frank Boyd · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2006, 01:14:35 AM »

The JO/Jox was designed in the 30's the JO/Jox was the first cab forward fire truck built in America. The Jox had conventional arched rear fenders, and open ladder racks the JO was the Premium model and had fully enclosed ladder bed and a streamlined teardrop rear fenders.
Jox had manual jacks, JO had hydralic jacks
All JO/Jox models had open cabs.the ladders were 3 section hydralic operated 65' 75' and 85' lengths three section, and in 1940 a 4 section 100' was offered.
A total of 110 were built at Elmira NY plant, and another 10 at the Toronto plant.

This information is from Walt Mccall's book 100 Years of American LaFrance.
I highly recomend this book as well as the mack book by Harvey Eckard.

emt805 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2006, 10:09:17 AM »

Does anyone know where I can go to get replacement gages, or to have them restored. The ones currently on my rig are rusted from sitting outside. I am also unable to locate a replacement alf-co nose badge.

Andrew2340 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2006, 12:06:09 AM »

Here's a local JOX that the Shriner's Club now owns. It formerly served

Ex-Ronkonkoma (NY) Fire Dept
1939 American LaFrance-Foamite/JOX
100' Ladder
Reg. # L-1126

sconfire · « **Reply #14 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:03:18 PM »

L-1126 was originally sold to Port Washington, NY. This JO model probably served with the other department later on as a used piece of apparatus.

In a previous post there was a person that said the "X" in JOX stood for experimental then it changed to the cab forward design. This is incorrect. "X" clearly stood for the eXposed ladder racks on the model in question.

I know of the one JOX in the fire museum in Penreth (?) Australia. I would love to get photos of the others!

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