American Lafrance - Patriot

[boardmansteve]

Most buffs think the JO/JOX models were ALF's ugliest.  Not me...I think the Patriot was their worst, practically as well as aesthetically.  How 'bout those blind spots at the "A" pillars (front cab corners)?  Wicked!

Miami, OK
Engine 6
1994 ALF #2147
Diesel/automatic
1500/500/50

(Steve Loftin photo)

[wfd44]

SORRY BUT THIS PIC DOESNT LOOK UGLY AT ALL....LOOKS DECENT TO ME.....

[nappc]

1992 American Lafrance Patriot
1500 gpm  750 gallon tank


I have now placed it in the correct category!

[mgk110]

Pittsburgh Bureau of Fire E20 1750/500 ?. I think Pgh had four Patriots with two still in service.

Credit to the photographer.

[diablo_fire]

Most buffs think the JO/JOX models were ALF's ugliest.  Not me...I think the Patriot was their worst, practically as well as aesthetically.  How 'bout those blind spots at the "A" pillars (front cab corners)?  Wicked!

Miami, OK
Engine 6
1994 ALF #2147
Diesel/automatic
1500/500/50

(Steve Loftin photo)

very nice work how about a walk around of a rig instead of the three quarters pump panel picture all the time. and like i said very nice work

[mgk110]

I have 360 shots of a Pittsburgh Patriot. I will post them later.

[diablo_fire]

I have 360 shots of a Pittsburgh Patriot. I will post them later.

ty i would love to see it. I am the kind that takes pictures of opprotunity and do not stage my pictures like a few do. and i would love to see them

[Open Cab Mack]

The chassis on the Patriot is actually an HME chassis.

[Engine33Truck]

How good/bad were these trucks?  Personally I think that these...things...would rank very highly on the "America's Ugliest Fire Truck" list; and, at least to me, make even the first generation Metros look good.  Were these rigs as bad in service as they were ugly or were they a case of function over form?

[mgk110]

The one complaint I heard about the Pgh Patriots is that the rear cab doors opened toward the street inside of swinging open toward the middle of the truck. Other then that i never heard anything else.

[fcdan]

The chassis on the Patriot is actually an HME chassis.

I thought the Patriot was built on a Pemfab chassis.

[Engine33Truck]

The one complaint I heard about the Pgh Patriots is that the rear cab doors opened toward the street inside of swinging open toward the middle of the truck. Other then that i never heard anything else.

Sounds like a good truck to have in your fleet then.  Ugly, but reliable.

[START WATER]

they ugelist fire truck built  were the four dopor cabs  on the ward la franch  called  750 a  the idea was great  foor door cab  fromt mount suction compartments  both sides  foam sysetm  but the front  was horrible  kooking even scary  in the dark . 

[boardmansteve]

The chassis on the Patriot is actually an HME chassis.

I thought the Patriot was built on a Pemfab chassis.

Correct; cab and chassis were Pemfab.  They're still in business, but no longer build fire apparatus (Imperial) or chassis/cabs:

http://www.pemfab.com/

[boardmansteve]

1992 American Lafrance Patriot
1500 gpm  750 gallon tank

Here's an opposite view of the same truck, taken by Dick Adelman at a conference in Cleveland, OH on 7/10/92.  As you can see it had hinged doors on one side and rollups on the other.

Having never been sold, I believe this is the one that is still part of the ALF collection.  I saw it on a plant visit in 1999.