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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #105 on: December 02, 2010, 06:51:59 AM »
                                                            1948 American LaFrance
                                                                      75'  aerial
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                                                                    Newton, Mass.


                                                   Charles Beckwith Photo - Lloyd Collection

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #106 on: December 04, 2010, 09:33:38 PM »

 Re: 1947 ALF Penn Boro:

  Unusual to see an ALF with spokes rather than disc wheels. The only other ones I've
  seen were the 1980s ALFs from New York City.

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #107 on: December 07, 2010, 02:07:47 AM »
Delivered new to Polson, Montana by rail in September of 1948.  It served the department until my father and I purchased it 1994.  It has a J series engine and 750GPM pump, Serial #3629.  The tank and booster reels may have bee added sometime after delivery. 

The rig appeared in the March/April 1949 company magazine Blazes. 

It's currently on display at the Polson/Flathead Historic Museum.  I had a custom cover fitting made for it, if anyone wants the info for their rig let me know.


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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2010, 04:31:15 AM »
July 12, 1955 - San Francisco firefighters battle a blaze at the Italian Village.  A 700 series ALF tractor-drawn aerial is in the midst of the action.  The wood ground ladders are quite impressive.
April 22, 1958 - SFFD working in the 900 block of Market Street.  An ALF tractor-drawn aerial and a pumper are working this fire.
aPRIL 24, 1964 - The Reed Feather Co. is ablaze in this picture.  I wonder if this is the same ALF tiller in each of these photos?

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #109 on: December 23, 2010, 06:39:30 AM »
                                                     1951 American LaFrance
                                                            Reg. No. 9290
                                                              100' aerial
                                                           Bluefield, W.Va.


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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #110 on: December 29, 2010, 02:49:12 AM »
                                                                 1949 American LaFrance
                                                                        Reg.No. 3910
                                                                           75' aerial
                                                                     Malverne, L.I., N.Y.

                                                       Charles beckwith Photo - Lloyd Collection

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #111 on: January 06, 2011, 09:33:51 PM »
Quote from: wf33ret on November 30, 2010, 06:13:12 AM
The Penn Borough 700 is either ex Irwin or North Irwin Borough. It may have been refurbed with air brakesor a diesel motor. Great pics, hope you have more from Western Pa.
                                                             1955 American LaFrance
                                                                    Reg. No. L 5220
                                                                       1250 / 300
                                                                     Parker City, PA.

                                                              1947 American LaFrance
                                                                        1000 / 250
                                                                      Penn Boro, PA.

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #112 on: January 06, 2011, 10:17:18 PM »
Quote from: mgk110 on January 06, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #113 on: January 07, 2011, 09:34:55 AM »
Read the top line in the quoted section.
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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #114 on: January 07, 2011, 12:51:17 PM »
Sorry, I didn't notice it.  My apoligies.
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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #115 on: January 08, 2011, 05:23:40 PM »
Keyser, WV
Vigilant Reel and Hose Company No. 1
Engine 3
1947 American LaFrance 750
500/300

This girl is currently Engine 33-12 and is one of our reserve engines.  I put KFD's original name and her original number just for fun.

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #116 on: January 08, 2011, 06:44:23 PM »
Quote from: Engine33Truck on January 08, 2011, 05:23:40 PM
Keyser, WV
Vigilant Reel and Hose Company No. 1
Engine 3
1947 American LaFrance 750
500/300

This girl is currently Engine 33-12 and is one of our reserve engines.  I put KFD's original name and her original number just for fun.
L-3251,705-PFC, del. 11/5/1947
1st photo, c.1951, Bill Snyder, Jenkins collection
2nd photo, c.1989, V. McLaughlin photo, Jenkins collection
3rd photo, 1997, WW Jenkins photo
note how this rig acquired the "modern" ALF plates on the sides of the cab!
Vigilant Reel & Hose was changed to 'Keyser Vol. Fire Dept.' in 1954

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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #117 on: January 09, 2011, 12:50:54 AM »
Beautiful pictures!  Thank you for posting them!  There's many interesting stories about this rig, especially from Bob Dorsey, who joined on Nov. 8, 1941.  Around 90 percent of the stories he tells are completely true, however I'm not exactly sure how truck this is.  The story takes place on 25 December 1954.  I forget the name of the town in Pennsylvania, but a house caught on fire and the fire department was "caught with their pants down" as they had washed their hose and it was all hanging to dry.  Most fire companies between there and Keyser at the time either didn't exist or didn't have the manpower and/or equipment to run mutual aid.  So Viligant was alerted, with 11 on the '47.  According to Dorsey, they made it there in less than a half hour (the trip usually takes an hour and a half, I think...it's just across the border in PA), and according to him they managed to more or less save the house.  Now of course, only him and Bill Carpenter are the only two members that were in the fire company then and I've never gathered the courage to ask Mr. Carpenter how true it is, as Dorsey's a hero of mine and I typically believe almost everything he says.

Just thought I'd share that about our 1947 ALF, as I think it's an interesting story, and doing a little calculations I estimated that Engine 33-12 was travelling at an average speed of approximately 90-100 mph or more. 

Also, Bruco, you stated The '47 (our nickname for her) as being a 705-PFC.  I know that 705 means 700 Series, 500gpm pump. and P means "Pumper" and C means "Closed Cab" and "F" indicated the type of engine.  What kind of engine did that indicate?  And last question, I saw on this forum or somewhere else (I think the latter) that curbside pump panels on 700 series ALF's was a "west coast thing" and were rare on the East Coast.  I've always been under the impression that all 700 Series American LaFrance engines and quints had curbside pump panels, which is true?
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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #118 on: January 09, 2011, 09:24:08 AM »
Quote from: Engine33Truck on January 09, 2011, 12:50:54 AM
Beautiful pictures!  Thank you for posting them!  There's many interesting stories about this rig, especially from Bob Dorsey, who joined on Nov. 8, 1941.  Around 90 percent of the stories he tells are completely true, however I'm not exactly sure how truck this is.  The story takes place on 25 December 1954.  I forget the name of the town in Pennsylvania, but a house caught on fire and the fire department was "caught with their pants down" as they had washed their hose and it was all hanging to dry.  Most fire companies between there and Keyser at the time either didn't exist or didn't have the manpower and/or equipment to run mutual aid.  So Viligant was alerted, with 11 on the '47.  According to Dorsey, they made it there in less than a half hour (the trip usually takes an hour and a half, I think...it's just across the border in PA), and according to him they managed to more or less save the house.  Now of course, only him and Bill Carpenter are the only two members that were in the fire company then and I've never gathered the courage to ask Mr. Carpenter how true it is, as Dorsey's a hero of mine and I typically believe almost everything he says.

Just thought I'd share that about our 1947 ALF, as I think it's an interesting story, and doing a little calculations I estimated that Engine 33-12 was travelling at an average speed of approximately 90-100 mph or more. 

Also, Bruco, you stated The '47 (our nickname for her) as being a 705-PFC.  I know that 705 means 700 Series, 500gpm pump. and P means "Pumper" and C means "Closed Cab" and "F" indicated the type of engine.  What kind of engine did that indicate?  And last question, I saw on this forum or somewhere else (I think the latter) that curbside pump panels on 700 series ALF's was a "west coast thing" and were rare on the East Coast.  I've always been under the impression that all 700 Series American LaFrance engines and quints had curbside pump panels, which is true?
I worked a 700 Series in New England and it had the curb side pump panel. Ain't never heard it being a "West Coast" thing.
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Re: 700 Series ALF
« Reply #119 on: January 09, 2011, 09:55:14 AM »
Also, Bruco, you stated The '47 (our nickname for her) as being a 705-PFC.  I know that 705 means 700 Series, 500gpm pump. and P means "Pumper" and C means "Closed Cab" and "F" indicated the type of engine.  What kind of engine did that indicate?  And last question, I saw on this forum or somewhere else (I think the latter) that curbside pump panels on 700 series ALF's was a "west coast thing" and were rare on the East Coast.  I've always been under the impression that all 700 Series American LaFrance engines and quints had curbside pump panels, which is true?
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I believe that the "F" stood for the small, 190hp V-12 engine, which was the smallest of 4 offered at that time.
Curbside pump panels were standard on 700 series, when the 800 series was brought out in 1956, curbside became optional, and driver side panels became standard. ALF continued the option thru the 900, 1000, and Century series.
You may be interested to know that Berlin,PA., in Somerset Co., has had curbside panels on all their engines. This has included 900 series, Century series, and a ALF Eagle/4-Guys.
I do not claim to be an ALF expert, but I do have a lot of reference material!
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